Stargate SG-1: "Icon"
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corilannamHey, look! There was a new Stargate episode on tonight! Did you know there was going to be a new Stargate episode on tonight? I had no idea!
Spoilers ahoy for Icon.
This was one of those weeks when I really wished SG was a two-hour long show so that they'd have time to properly tell this kind of complex story. As it was, I felt like the story had been kind of folded over and smooshed together, but it mostly worked. I always enjoy these episodes where the whole planet is thrown into chaos just by SG-1 showing up, and I really liked all the nifty geopolitical set-up they did with this one. I wish they could have found a slightly less confusing way of telling it, but again the hour and the smooshing, I guess.
A few comments, in no particular order --
-- That teaser was about five different fanfic stories at once. Poor, lost, amnesiac, injured Daniel, waking up in Edoras with Eowyn unwinding bandages from his eyes. And of course she's already most of the way in love with him. Seriously, go over to Heliopolis, it's all there. I'd look them all up for you, but I still haven't watched Atlantis yet.
-- Speaking of poor, lost, amnesiac Daniel, that boy just can't keep a memory in his pretty little head for more than half an hour at a time, can he? Some psychology researcher back at the base is having a field day with Dr. Jackson's file, you just know it.
-- Hey, look, it's Poor Man's Kevin Spacey from Battlestar Galactica! Hey there, PMKS! Sorry I was assuming you were evil.
-- "That's terrible. And yet! Not our problem." Hee. I think you can actually see it on their faces as Jack and Daniel gear themselves up for the argument. Which was remarkably short, really. Daniel gives him that desperately earnest puppy look, and Jack caves. "Daniel! Squirrely!" Heeeee. They are beyond all previously known levels of cuteness together this year.
-- I just want to take a moment to appreciate the beefcake!Daniel (though I miss the glasses) they gave us in this episode. And the fact that when Christopher Judge got to have hair in his contract this season, he apparently had to give up having sleeves in exchange.
-- I'd also like to take a minute to appreciate the pained look on Jack's face when Sam tells him they have no way of knowing if Daniel's still alive. Ahhh.
-- Soren is a pretty boring bad guy. I think they lost the ability to create interesting bad guys after sixth season. All of Soren's blustering and glaring can't even match Ba'al standing patiently on the gate ramp, waiting for Jack to wake up from his nap.
Nonetheless, Soren's scenes at the SGC certainly had their uses! Teal'c was so subtlely but deeply furious at Soren and his band of idiots, who were so eager to throw their whole planet into the Goa'uld slavery that Teal'c's people have spent so much of their own blood to be free from. The depth to which this offended him was evident in every look and clipped word, even the stiffness of his posture.
And how great was Jack, trying his patented O'Neill brand of diplomacy? Not funny like last week, but oh so good with his smile and his folksy, casual voice and those deadly eyes putting steel under every word. Excuse me, I need some cold water.
-- And then there's the scene in Jack's office, and his tiny little spaz out. "Find it!" Oh, how he hates it when any of his team is missing. How he especially hates it when it's Daniel. Again, ahhhh. Just put the silver platter with my slash on it over there, please.
-- Poor, naive guy. Of *course* your wife is in love with Daniel. *Everybody* is in love with Daniel. Haven't you ever read the fanfic before?
I did like her, though, and the way she faced down Soren's goons while all the menfolk were hiding.
--"We've met these gods upon whom you're so hot." Hee. That sentence construction just makes me happy.
-- "Daniel?" "Jack? Nice to hear your voice." "Likewise. You coming home, or what?" Ahhhhh.
But really. "If Teal'c's translations are correct"?? "Are you sure you got it right, T?" Teal'c has been speaking Goa'uld longer than any of the rest of them have been alive. Is this really the time to be suddenly questioning his language skills? Poor Daniel. He thought he had the perfect code.
-- It's a good thing that military hand signals are the same throughout the galaxy.
-- And it's a really good thing that Daniel doesn't really need his glasses for anything important, like oh, seeing or firing a gun.
Next week: Hey, I saw this episode when it was on X-Files! All I remember was Mulder and Scully in black vinyl. Daniel will apparently be playing the role of Scully here, which suits me just fine.
Now, I go to watch Atlantis, so I can actually read everyone else's posts!
Spoilers ahoy for Icon.
This was one of those weeks when I really wished SG was a two-hour long show so that they'd have time to properly tell this kind of complex story. As it was, I felt like the story had been kind of folded over and smooshed together, but it mostly worked. I always enjoy these episodes where the whole planet is thrown into chaos just by SG-1 showing up, and I really liked all the nifty geopolitical set-up they did with this one. I wish they could have found a slightly less confusing way of telling it, but again the hour and the smooshing, I guess.
A few comments, in no particular order --
-- That teaser was about five different fanfic stories at once. Poor, lost, amnesiac, injured Daniel, waking up in Edoras with Eowyn unwinding bandages from his eyes. And of course she's already most of the way in love with him. Seriously, go over to Heliopolis, it's all there. I'd look them all up for you, but I still haven't watched Atlantis yet.
-- Speaking of poor, lost, amnesiac Daniel, that boy just can't keep a memory in his pretty little head for more than half an hour at a time, can he? Some psychology researcher back at the base is having a field day with Dr. Jackson's file, you just know it.
-- Hey, look, it's Poor Man's Kevin Spacey from Battlestar Galactica! Hey there, PMKS! Sorry I was assuming you were evil.
-- "That's terrible. And yet! Not our problem." Hee. I think you can actually see it on their faces as Jack and Daniel gear themselves up for the argument. Which was remarkably short, really. Daniel gives him that desperately earnest puppy look, and Jack caves. "Daniel! Squirrely!" Heeeee. They are beyond all previously known levels of cuteness together this year.
-- I just want to take a moment to appreciate the beefcake!Daniel (though I miss the glasses) they gave us in this episode. And the fact that when Christopher Judge got to have hair in his contract this season, he apparently had to give up having sleeves in exchange.
-- I'd also like to take a minute to appreciate the pained look on Jack's face when Sam tells him they have no way of knowing if Daniel's still alive. Ahhh.
-- Soren is a pretty boring bad guy. I think they lost the ability to create interesting bad guys after sixth season. All of Soren's blustering and glaring can't even match Ba'al standing patiently on the gate ramp, waiting for Jack to wake up from his nap.
Nonetheless, Soren's scenes at the SGC certainly had their uses! Teal'c was so subtlely but deeply furious at Soren and his band of idiots, who were so eager to throw their whole planet into the Goa'uld slavery that Teal'c's people have spent so much of their own blood to be free from. The depth to which this offended him was evident in every look and clipped word, even the stiffness of his posture.
And how great was Jack, trying his patented O'Neill brand of diplomacy? Not funny like last week, but oh so good with his smile and his folksy, casual voice and those deadly eyes putting steel under every word. Excuse me, I need some cold water.
-- And then there's the scene in Jack's office, and his tiny little spaz out. "Find it!" Oh, how he hates it when any of his team is missing. How he especially hates it when it's Daniel. Again, ahhhh. Just put the silver platter with my slash on it over there, please.
-- Poor, naive guy. Of *course* your wife is in love with Daniel. *Everybody* is in love with Daniel. Haven't you ever read the fanfic before?
I did like her, though, and the way she faced down Soren's goons while all the menfolk were hiding.
--"We've met these gods upon whom you're so hot." Hee. That sentence construction just makes me happy.
-- "Daniel?" "Jack? Nice to hear your voice." "Likewise. You coming home, or what?" Ahhhhh.
But really. "If Teal'c's translations are correct"?? "Are you sure you got it right, T?" Teal'c has been speaking Goa'uld longer than any of the rest of them have been alive. Is this really the time to be suddenly questioning his language skills? Poor Daniel. He thought he had the perfect code.
-- It's a good thing that military hand signals are the same throughout the galaxy.
-- And it's a really good thing that Daniel doesn't really need his glasses for anything important, like oh, seeing or firing a gun.
Next week: Hey, I saw this episode when it was on X-Files! All I remember was Mulder and Scully in black vinyl. Daniel will apparently be playing the role of Scully here, which suits me just fine.
Now, I go to watch Atlantis, so I can actually read everyone else's posts!
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Date: 2004-08-06 10:18 pm (UTC)*dreamy sigh* Oh, yeah.
And the fact that when Christopher Judge got to have hair in his contract this season, he apparently had to give up having sleeves in exchange.
Spew!! LOL!
Just put the silver platter with my slash on it over there, please.
I so love it when they just hand it to us like that. Please, sir, may I have some more?
It's a good thing that military hand signals are the same throughout the galaxy.
Yes, that was particularly stupid.
And it's a really good thing that Daniel doesn't really need his glasses for anything important, like oh, seeing or firing a gun.
I wear glasses, but I can see without them. Sort of. I can't see small details, but I can see enough to know there's a man with a gun in front of me. *g*
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Date: 2004-08-07 12:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-06 10:25 pm (UTC)Yeah, you know, I give them credit for effort and ambition, but it didn't really come together all that well. (And yeah, the timeshifting thing was just unecessary.) Oh well.
That teaser was about five different fanfic stories at once. Poor, lost, amnesiac, injured Daniel, waking up in Edoras with Eowyn unwinding bandages from his eyes. And of course she's already most of the way in love with him. Seriously, go over to Heliopolis, it's all there.
Oh, God, I know. I'm sitting there, thinking "you know, this should be my kink, and instead I'm really just kind of embarassed for everyone involved." But then they give me Jack's little spaz-out, and I'm all over that, so.
The depth to which this offended him was evident in every look and clipped word, even the stiffness of his posture.
Oh, yes, that was fantastic.
Poor, naive guy. Of *course* your wife is in love with Daniel. *Everybody* is in love with Daniel. Haven't you ever read the fanfic before?
Snerk. Yeah, you know, again... too much. Daniel's a difficult guy. Of course, she may not have liked him for his personality.
And it's a really good thing that Daniel doesn't really need his glasses for anything important, like oh, seeing or firing a gun.
Right. Well, I'm guessing MS leapt upon the idea that gosh, Daniel's glasses must've been broken, right? Oh well. *handwave*
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Date: 2004-08-07 12:19 am (UTC)Jack's little spaz-out was worth every single moment of confusing OTT exposition in the rest of the episode. Way better than h/c from some chick we've never seen before.
Snerk. Yeah, you know, again... too much. Daniel's a difficult guy. Of course, she may not have liked him for his personality.
Hee! Well, she did have him half naked in her bed for quite a while. I'm sure a great deal of the infatuation occurred before he actually woke up. And notice that she wasn't exactly distraught when he finally left.
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Date: 2004-08-06 10:37 pm (UTC)Hmm. I don't think it did, because I don't think the geopolitical plot was really what they were getting at. They didn't do it well, tho, so it might as well have been. *g*
They are beyond all previously known levels of cuteness together this year.
Oh, my god, aren't they??? I just want to lock them in a room together. And then film them. *g*
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Date: 2004-08-07 12:34 am (UTC)Well, by "worked" I meant "the actual sequence of events was mostly understandable by the end." *g*
Like we've all mentioned at this point, this storyline was way too big to fit into the time they had, and even if they'd gotten rid of the unnecessary time-jumping (though I understand why they tried that) and romantic stuff, I don't know that they could have ever gotten it to flow the way they wanted it. But at the same time, I really do like that they have these ambitious stories they want to tell, and I tend to think that even just trying to make them work is a good thing for the series as a whole. This certainly isn't the first time that I've felt like they didn't have enough time to do what they really wanted to do, but I still like all the big, messy planetary politics they bring up, even when they can't follow through on it.
But to be perfectly honest, as long as they keep peppering it with some slash, some angst, some eye candy, and at least one or two snippets of J/D banter, I'll forgive them almost anything. For the time being. *g*
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Date: 2004-08-07 12:55 am (UTC)Yes. They've worked out the rough edges and they've been through the fire and cold for each other so many times. They just... know each other so well. They've each had to live without the other and seen just how preferable it is to be together. It's so beautiful even before the slash glasses get put on.
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Date: 2004-08-09 08:15 am (UTC)daniel as scully...heh heh heh
Date: 2004-08-07 02:51 pm (UTC)Re: daniel as scully...heh heh heh
Date: 2004-08-09 08:14 am (UTC)Re: daniel as scully...heh heh heh
Date: 2004-08-09 02:04 pm (UTC)